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Wednesday, August 29, 2012

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If one added diyo to a mezuza and too much diyo came out so that the diyo is high in one spot may one draw out the extra ink through a napkin? I am referring when there is no shinui tzura but it might spread through time. On a bent tefillin corner may one add leather dust to fix it?

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  1. yes and no (if the ribuah is possul)

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    1. if ribah is goodand you are just sharpening corners, then yes

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  2. may one draw out the extra ink through a napkin? yes

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  3. Why would you want to use tefillin dust to sharpen a corner? it offers NO halachic advantage. Whatever the status of the corner, adding dust will not change it. if it is fine as is then leave it alone. if it is not mehudar and that is what the customer wants then pull it out and fix it kehalacha.

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    1. if the corners are kosher but not sharp, many batim machers will fix gassos by dipping the corners in super glue and then dipping them into ground leather. after it dries they sand on a sanding belt an repaint, with excellent results.

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  4. re: drawing out the ink -- Q-tips work really well

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  5. I've got a good few 1000 pairs of new/used tefillin under my belt and am aware of the obvious results. The point is that if the corners are mehudar then there is no need to use the dust and if they are not mehudar then the dust not only doesn't make it mehudar but it is also wrong because the owner/buyer assumes he has mehudar corners when in fact he doesn't. We do put on super glue after pulling out the corner but this is just to cause the corner to harden before sanding/shaping.

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    1. I agree with you totally that adding the pirurie ohr to thye corners is a bit of a cheat and does not amopunt to anything halachically. But I think people do it because its a quick fix that makes the batim look good.

      I wouldnt bother with this for the simple reason that if its not broke dont fix it. A bayis is not an esrog. and if its so round that its possul, then this is not an acceptable way of fixing, you must expand the leather with water and fix it that way, as mentioned in some of the otehr comments.

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    2. By gassos water works but does it work for dakkos? it does not seem so to me.

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  6. regarding using super glue R' Zalmen Shimon Dvorkin said that it is a chatzitzah and therefore werever chatzitzah is an issue it shuld not be used.

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    1. I have heard this before but how does this sit with hermetic sealing, a practice theat requires super glue and done on virtually all new tefillin today

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    2. Regarding chatzitza the parshios need to be roieh avir hoilam and therefore anything on the bayis itself (not the titurah) that is not the same min is a problem.
      on the titurah the only place were chatzitza is a problem is when its on the center of the titurah tachtoina and there is a chatzita between the parshios and the persons head/hand

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    3. OK so hermetic sealing woul dnot be a problem then according to R' Zalman Shimon

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  7. there is a very simple way of pulling out corners without glue,
    make the corner wet with a tissue and let it sit untill the corner gets soft then using your finger nail push out the corner and let it dry. then just paint it over.

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