yud with two tagim
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Please post your opinions if this yud lost the Tzurah
How about the Bais of Uleovdo?
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Hi Shmuel,
ReplyDeleteAlthough the tag comes out from the right side of the head, it is small and thin. Kasher as is.
One had a shaila WHICH RAV FRIEDLANDER WASNT HAPPY ABOUT WHERE THE YUD LOOKED LIKE A NUMBER FOUR. BUT THERE THE HEAD WAS VERY THIN HERE IT IS THICK AND THE TAG IS THIN SO I SHOULD THINK ITS OK
ReplyDeleteksiva tama brings rav wosner that if it looks like 4 it is pasul.I would like to understand does it have to look like other alphabet or # to be pasul or as long as it does not look like yud its problem.How about if it looks like a Chinese letter
ReplyDeleteIMHO it has nothing to do with other alphabet or numerals.
ReplyDeleteLook at Sefer Sefekut HaSofer Letter YUD #13. At the end of the day, if it appears like it has lost its shape and lets say that it appears similar to a #4, the matter must still be substantiated by the reading of a tinok. If he reads YOD, whe can then slightly lengthen the width of the YOD so that the tag not remain on the right edge of the letter.
ReplyDeleteHowever, in the above case, were the tag of the YUD is small and thin whe rule it to be kasher as is.