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Tuesday, May 21, 2013

sha'ala on kof


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  1. you can fix it, by adding dyo to round the corner.

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  2. If it's a kosher Bais, then "fixing" it by adding is Shelo Kesidran. If it's not, it needs no fixing. Adding D'yo for "just in case" obscures the Shaila permanently. Of course, if this is a Sefer Torah, I agree that it should be made prettier.

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    1. It is a kosher caf, but I think it is a mitzva that the caf lechatchila should be correctly rounded at the bottom corner.

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  3. Not sure what you mean. "Kosher caf" means it is "correctly rounded". The caf of HaKenaani is similarly, if not as extensively, imperfect. The Bais in Bechazak is, I think, more serious. Although it has the top right correctly squared, which is the Ikkar, there is no real Ekev; it's a real, round caf bottom.

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    1. The caf of Ha'knanni is kosher, although it has a slight "zavis" because its basic feature, the right outside "gav" is round. The same applies to the caf of Kol, only that the "gav" of the caf is missing a small piece before the slight zavis of the moshav.
      Both cafs are definitly kosher.

      The beis of Bechozek is also kosher, its akev is well protruding right, so that overrides the exact shape of the zavis [being a bit rounded] since that is far right of the guf ha'ois.

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    2. BTW in the beis the "top right correctly squared" is Not Ikar. The ikar is square/zavis/akev at bottom.
      This stand is accepted by all acharonim. See Mishnat Sofrim - beis.

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  4. I'd agree that the chafs are kosher and, as always, if can be improved, should be.

    As long as a letter was deemed kosher by an appropriate authority then there is no longer a shaila (assuming there was one in the first place) so there is no obscuring taking place when fixing up the letter. Obviously, if the psak is that even after the tikkun the ksav is a lower level of kashrus than it now appears to be and this ksav based on price and/or appearance is expected to be a higher level and/or you know that the owner thought or desires the ksav to be a higher level than it is now then he must be informed.

    We also fix letters determined by a posek to be kosher, even if there is no halachic gain so future examiners aren't troubled to find and ask the same shaila in future. This is not called obscuring.

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