tav & yud are pasul

The tav - I think is pasul, the left foot is not distinguished, it looks like a ches. I personaly think this is not even a case for a shylas tinok [although probably others will go for a shylas tinok].

The yud - the foot [regel yemin] is clearly 3 times longer than the head [rosh], it is a small vav.
Why is the oilam machmir when a yud clearly looks like a small ches, lamed, caf, etc. but not so when it appears to be a small vav?


  1. Just asked a 8year tinok, he said CHES

  2. Technically the tav should be a shaylas Tinok, but I doubt any Tinok would read it as a Tav (see previous comment).
    The yud looks kosher to me, just misshapen.

  3. I see a blita on the tav, sorry, it looks ok to me? why doesn't the blita count? I'm assuming it is easily noticeable to the eye without magnifier.

    Re the yud, I know Reb Moshe's shitto on this but I don't know how many of the gedolai haposkim will passel this. Why by small ches and lamed yes and not here remains a valid question

  4. Just wondering...
    Is it possible that if someone wrote a tiny, real Vav - less than half the height of other letters - in a place that actually requires a Vav, that it would be Pasul or require a Shaylas Tonok? (If so, the Svara might be that it's too easily mistaken for a Yud, to the average reader. I don't think it's exactly comparable to the small Zayin in Vayzasa.) If so, that might make it different than a small real Lamed or Ches, where - I think - it would always be Kosher.

    1. Not necessarily. Comparison to the other letters is an important factor for the Tinok in deciding how to read, but only one factor. In the case of vav vs. yud, I would say a rather important one.


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