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Monday, June 9, 2014

Tav or Peh? and what's with the KHAF?



Here is a TAV that has a longer right foot and a shorter left foot than what it should be.  As such, it may resemble a Peh Peshutah with an inverted nose.  This is why our Hakhamim always impress us to make the right foot a bit shorter than the left.

The above letter must be shown to a Tinok, and the right foot shortened if read like a TAV.  If the child reads it like a PEH PESHUTA, then its PESSULA.

As per the KHAF, it looks like a cursive BET.   I believe that there is room to be lenient and not invalidate it right off the bat, as the letter appears more like a KHAF in the original smaller Ketav.

Your input is however requested.  Should it be shown to a Tinok, and fixed if read properly; or do we say that it has lost its shape and de-facto invalidate it?  I'd very much appreciate your response.


9 comments:

  1. Both good shailos however I think the tof will not be judged fairly by a tinok since the head is inverted if it is to be a pay, and a child may therefore not recognize it as such, even though halachah does

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  2. I would passel the tav. the caf shaylas tinok.

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  3. Would the Caf pass as a Gimmel?

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    1. This Khaf, because of its width, even though it shares some similitude on its bottom right with a Gimmel would never pass for it.

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  4. my first impression was the chaf is a gimel,I am not even sure a tinok would help since it has all the limbs of a gimel if its wide so its a wide gimel

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  5. my first impression was the chaf is a gimel,I am not even sure a tinok would help since it has all the limbs of a gimel if its wide so its a wide gimel

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  6. I agree with Rabbi Traube. I'd have asked Rav Friedlander and not have made a decision on my own to ask a tinok.

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