long yudim?

Would one rely on the reading of a tinok in these long curved yudim?

Following the opinion of the Maharshag. What is the border line?


  1. Hi Dovid,
    Great question! A long Yud, as above, is only problematic when dealing with the modern Ketav Ashkenaz as the proportioning of the letter is normally restricted to a height of 3 Kolmosim.

    However, a Ketav Sepharadi is proportioned differently. The height of the Sephardic writ can extend from 3.5 Kolmosim to sometimes 4 Kolmosim in height. Therefore, what appears to be in one Ketav as a long YOD may not necessarily be the case when considering another writ.

    Therefore, when a rule gets established that a VAV is 3 Kolmosim tall, we must comprehend that this is not a universal rule. Rather, it is only relative to the tradition which the posek is documenting.

    In the above case, the YODS are valid, for the proportioning of the Ketav is almost 4 Kolmosim tall.

    One must understand that in the above case, there are no clear "generic" border line guidelines. Likewise, one does not need a tinok. All that is needed is a true sense of proportionality.

  2. The 2nd Yud in kimei is the worst of the 3 shown.Were it straight it would be a shailos tinok. However, because it's angled I'd say it just passes. Were it any longer, the angling would not save it from a shailas tonok.


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