Batim from "Neta Levi" under hechsher of a Rav Y or YY Klein, Av Bais Din Vishnitz (fomerly under Rav MS Klein)
Anyone familiar with these batim?
How about the Bais of Uleovdo?
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Not a "khaf"
This gave me a "Safrut smile"... OK, I realise that this is not Ktav STaM, however it is interesting what happens when graphic/font Hebrew becomes too stylised. Case-in-point, a colleague and I were visiting the mayor's office in the Gaza Belt region of Shaar HaNegev (adjoining Sderot). He is new to reading Hebrew and pronounced the welcome sign as " brooning " or " broobing " (instead of the intended " brookhim ". I replied that he was more correct than the graphic designer, as the letter meant to be a " khaf " was closer to a halakhic "Nun" or "Bet", and had this been Ktav STaM, the letter would likely be considered pasul as a "Khaf".
shin in "Alter Rebbe" script
Both the Shulchan Aruch Harav and the Mishnah Brurah use similar terminology when describing the importance of the shin being "pointy" on the bottom and all three branches of the letter shin meeting at a point or "chad" at the bottom of the letter. There is a strong foundation in Halacha for this and for the bottom of the shin to be flat like a moshav (base) is considered questionable (Pri Megadim) and definitely not Kosher Lechatchillah. It is worse if the moshav is very wide, but it is still questionable if it is lechatchillah if there is a thick noticeable base rather than a chad. Even for Sephardim, who lechatchillah make an angular base, it is still important that the base is indeed on a (significant) angle. If the base is flat, even if all three branches of the shin come out of the base connected , as in the top picture, it is problematic. It is worse in the bottom picture below where the right head/ branch comes out of the right part of the base and the m
Rabbi Moshe Shaul Klein is "the" talmid of Harav Wosner Shlita and one of the biggest Rabbanim in our generation (you may decide for yourself if you like his Hechsher). I met Rabbi Yakov Yitzchok Klien in my office at The time of the peeling retzuos scandal on Retzuot under his supervision, personal impression is a small rebbele type yungerman, maximum like a corner shul Rabbi,not a posek.
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Someone came to me for guidance when he was considering tefillin via an organization as he was able to get through them at wholesale. They typically assist with basic tefillin for kiruv but he wanted to get a mehudar pair through them. I requested lots of information and when i heard that the batim maker he uses dropped Rav MS klein for the other Rav Klein because "Rav MS klein's hechsher was too expensive" I suggested that this person not get tefillin from this source. I'm also aware of the peeling and the lower standards of the hechsher.
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