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Sunday, January 10, 2016

Is the ש of עשב kosher?

Is it fixable?


8 comments:

  1. If the mezuzah belongs to a Chabad adherent you could fix by adding a corner to the first rosh (it would be a very delicate operation).

    Outside Chabad (ie those who wouldn't rely on th T"T it would likely be a lost case.

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  2. From the picture it looks like a "safek kav mashuch b'shaveh", which many, including R' Y.M. Stern, are noheig to allow fixing by being m'tzareif the Mikdash M'at who allows adding heads on yudin of letters shelo k'sidran.

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    1. There are different types of safek kav moshuch. If it just gets thicker and doesn't have a small but noticable blita, it would fit into the catagory of nisrachev klapei maala behadroga. I don't have Rav Sterns sefer handy but I'm pretty sure he says you can't fix that.

      In this picture (at least the way I see it on my phone) you only see a semblance of a blita when you blow it up. Looking at it normally you don't see a blita, it just gets thicker. And furthermore, it looks like roshem anyway, not ink. I would be very surprised if Rav Friedlander wouldn't passel it.

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  3. OK, now I'm looking at it on my PC and I must admit at first glance it there is a blita muetes. (Previously, on my phone, it wasn't noticeable unless I enlarged it significantly.
    Therefore I think its obvious that this shailo must be seen in real life and normal size to 1) determine properly if it is indeed blita muetes or nisrachev klapei maaloh, and 2) If the left part is roshem or dyo (looks like a mix).
    I still think in my experience it depends on who the customer is, since Chabad poskim (based on the Tzemach Tzedek) seem to allow fixing even when it is nisrachev klapei maalo behadrogo.
    I'd appreciate very much if reb Yerachmiel or anyone could kindly show this shailo to Rav Friedlander...

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  4. To explain the difference between the two terms I used above, "blita muetes" and "nisrachev klapei maalo": the former is an small horizontal or even angular protrusion of the head of the letter, but still far from a proper protrusion. The latter is not a protrusion but a widening of the yerech as it goes up (like the shape of an ice cream cone), even if it curves slightly.

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  5. My understanding is that this is straight line but has a little ink stain that may be interpreted as a head, the Shaina is is this a Sofer kav mosuch or a plain kav moshuch. I will soon post a scenario where the Shaina is a line with a very slight bend

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  6. My understanding is that this is straight line but has a little ink stain that may be interpreted as a head, the Shaina is is this a Sofer kav mosuch or a plain kav moshuch. I will soon post a scenario where the Shaina is a line with a very slight bend

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  7. If it looks like a ש its kosher
    נצי"ב - שו"ת משיב דבר סימן ה

    http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1096&st=&pgnum=10&hilite=

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