And now the Nun of Nafshechem... How serious would you say this is?...
How about the Bais of Uleovdo?
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Not a "khaf"
This gave me a "Safrut smile"... OK, I realise that this is not Ktav STaM, however it is interesting what happens when graphic/font Hebrew becomes too stylised. Case-in-point, a colleague and I were visiting the mayor's office in the Gaza Belt region of Shaar HaNegev (adjoining Sderot). He is new to reading Hebrew and pronounced the welcome sign as " brooning " or " broobing " (instead of the intended " brookhim ". I replied that he was more correct than the graphic designer, as the letter meant to be a " khaf " was closer to a halakhic "Nun" or "Bet", and had this been Ktav STaM, the letter would likely be considered pasul as a "Khaf".
shin in "Alter Rebbe" script
Both the Shulchan Aruch Harav and the Mishnah Brurah use similar terminology when describing the importance of the shin being "pointy" on the bottom and all three branches of the letter shin meeting at a point or "chad" at the bottom of the letter. There is a strong foundation in Halacha for this and for the bottom of the shin to be flat like a moshav (base) is considered questionable (Pri Megadim) and definitely not Kosher Lechatchillah. It is worse if the moshav is very wide, but it is still questionable if it is lechatchillah if there is a thick noticeable base rather than a chad. Even for Sephardim, who lechatchillah make an angular base, it is still important that the base is indeed on a (significant) angle. If the base is flat, even if all three branches of the shin come out of the base connected , as in the top picture, it is problematic. It is worse in the bottom picture below where the right head/ branch comes out of the right part of the base and the m
Isn't it the same as the previous mentioned Vov. That clear answer or opinion, cannot be given from a picture?
ReplyDeleteIf you would use it as a ג without a doubt, then it's not a נ.
If it's definitely not a ג, then it's a Kosher נ.
And if it's a doubt, then don't we ask a תינוק דלא חכם ולא טיפש?
I recall R' Eli posted b'shem Mv"R Harav Friedlander zt"l regarding paskening based on images. Maybe he can repost it or provide the link to it? There are some morei horaah today who're regularly paskening based on images. While not ideal, when they feel then need to see the shaila in person they will say so.
ReplyDeleteIn all likelihood, when viewed in its actual size a moreh horaah will machshir. Please share with us the psak you receive and from whom.
"...However he said shailos which are size sensitive such as a small blita coming out of the back of a chof which may look more like a beis when enlarged, can really only judge accurately from the real thing as it appears in real life. (Real life sized images on a computer screen always comes out less clear than the real life original and once you blow it up its already altered). Also he said nifsakim and nekavim would be virtually impossible to judge correctly from such images".
DeleteBasic guidlines for this shaila:
ReplyDeleteIf its a pegima meaning that thete is no foot coming down below the rest of the moishev and it is very small as seems the case in this picture it is kosher.
If a little foot sticks down than harav MS Klien is very machmir where Rav Friedlander and others go according to mabat rishon/first impression. If it looks like a nun its a nun