Off-cuts

Can it be assumed that any off-cuts of parchment prior to it being ruled and cut to size (i.e. to write a sefer Torah etc), has been made with a tnai and can be used for "anything" as long as its not tashmish gnaiy? For example, can i use it to a make artworks? Can I practice writing on it prior to write a mezuzah etc? Can I have bar mitzvah boys (as part of a class) try writing on it?
Many thanks

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  1. By what I remembered hearing, most of the klafim produced nowadays are made with a tnai unless otherwise noted

    I could be wrong of course.

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  2. offcuts from avodas yad, which are often w/o a tanai would be an issue. Ask your expert posek in Stam.

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  3. if Shulchan Oruch can be "your expert posek", See Siman 42 Seif 6
    ...לפי שכיון שנהגו כן הרי זה כאלו התנה עליו מתחלה...

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  4. As I believe there is discussion among poskim on the matter of klaf avodas yad without tanai offcuts I suggest that a living expert posek be consulted.

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  5. The Living Shulchan Oruch is discussing klaf avodas yad without tanai.

    See Siman 32, Seif 11

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  6. Again,

    consult a moreh horaah for practical halachah.

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  7. As per Naparstak the eida hachareidis who gives hechsher on his klaf allows nisayon hakulmus.

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  8. and what about do wrap around parshios or chulin use?

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